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		<title>By: Lightroom 3 Now Available! &#124; TheLightroomLab.com &#124; Written by David Marx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lightroom 3 Now Available! &#124; TheLightroomLab.com &#124; Written by David Marx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 04:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I am not a paid endorser, but Lightroom 3 makes my photographs look great. I have been working with digital camera raw files since 2002 and this is truly the best image processing tool that I have ever [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lightroom 3 Now Available! &#124; TheLightroomLab.com &#124; Written by David Marx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lightroom 3 Now Available! &#124; TheLightroomLab.com &#124; Written by David Marx</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] I am not a paid endorser, but Lightroom 3 makes my photographs look great. I have been working with digital camera raw files since 2002 and this is truly the best image processing tool that I have ever [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What Software Should I Add to A New Mac For Photography &#124; TheLightroomLab.com &#124; Written by David Marx</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Software Should I Add to A New Mac For Photography &#124; TheLightroomLab.com &#124; Written by David Marx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 19:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] every Apple computer, is not powerful enough to deal with the size and complexity of the modern digital camera raw file. Apple would like me to push Aperture 3 which is their professional image library and Raw file [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Marx</title>
		<link>http://thelightroomlab.com/2009/06/digital-camera-file-formats-raw-and-jpeg/comment-page-1/#comment-11240</link>
		<dc:creator>David Marx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 01:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mikheal,

This one is easy!  Along the toolbar, bottom of the screen just above the film strip, just change the sort order to &quot;Filename.&quot;  This will separate your jpegs from your raw files since the extension is part of the filename.

best wishes,

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mikheal,</p>
<p>This one is easy!  Along the toolbar, bottom of the screen just above the film strip, just change the sort order to &#8220;Filename.&#8221;  This will separate your jpegs from your raw files since the extension is part of the filename.</p>
<p>best wishes,</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhael Subotzky</title>
		<link>http://thelightroomlab.com/2009/06/digital-camera-file-formats-raw-and-jpeg/comment-page-1/#comment-11103</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikhael Subotzky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,
Is it possible to change the view so you see jpegs and raws retroactively once you have already imported the files? I have already imported them and done some complex re-ordering so I don&#039;t want to re-import before being able to see them separately...
Many thanks
Mikhael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,<br />
Is it possible to change the view so you see jpegs and raws retroactively once you have already imported the files? I have already imported them and done some complex re-ordering so I don&#8217;t want to re-import before being able to see them separately&#8230;<br />
Many thanks<br />
Mikhael</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Rouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Glad I could help.  As far as streamlining the workflow, I&#039;d recommend practicing syncing your edits on raw files rather than relying on the jpg images for your results. For example, if you shot a series of 200 images at a swim meet, most of the factors are not going to change. The lighting, color balance, etc pretty much remains the same throughout the shoot.

When I do shoots like this, I edit the first image to my satisfaction (just overall edits; no cropping, spot removal, etc) then sync those edits to the remaining 199 images. That gives me a great starting point for any minute changes I may need to make with images &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; I still get to keep the advantages of working with raw files.

Good luck,
Scott Rouse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Glad I could help.  As far as streamlining the workflow, I&#8217;d recommend practicing syncing your edits on raw files rather than relying on the jpg images for your results. For example, if you shot a series of 200 images at a swim meet, most of the factors are not going to change. The lighting, color balance, etc pretty much remains the same throughout the shoot.</p>
<p>When I do shoots like this, I edit the first image to my satisfaction (just overall edits; no cropping, spot removal, etc) then sync those edits to the remaining 199 images. That gives me a great starting point for any minute changes I may need to make with images <em>and</em> I still get to keep the advantages of working with raw files.</p>
<p>Good luck,<br />
Scott Rouse</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Leonhardt</title>
		<link>http://thelightroomlab.com/2009/06/digital-camera-file-formats-raw-and-jpeg/comment-page-1/#comment-6876</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Leonhardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

That&#039;s brilliant - I knew there had to be a setting somewhere!

In terms of shooting Raw+jpg - I think the biggest thing is wanting to streamline my workflow just a bit more when I&#039;ve shot several hundred photos. I get what you&#039;re saying about default presets, and may need to investigate that a bit more. But when I shoot several hundred shots at a swim meet, for instance, I like the idea of taking a look at the .jpg, deciding which are &quot;good enough,&quot; and only tweaking the raw files if I&#039;m confident I can do a better job. It&#039;s also a good way for me to grade my own eye - do I think my post-processing gives me a better result than I&#039;d get with a .jpg out of the camera?

Either way - I appreciate the perspective and the pointer to the setting. Thanks a bundle.

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s brilliant &#8211; I knew there had to be a setting somewhere!</p>
<p>In terms of shooting Raw+jpg &#8211; I think the biggest thing is wanting to streamline my workflow just a bit more when I&#8217;ve shot several hundred photos. I get what you&#8217;re saying about default presets, and may need to investigate that a bit more. But when I shoot several hundred shots at a swim meet, for instance, I like the idea of taking a look at the .jpg, deciding which are &#8220;good enough,&#8221; and only tweaking the raw files if I&#8217;m confident I can do a better job. It&#8217;s also a good way for me to grade my own eye &#8211; do I think my post-processing gives me a better result than I&#8217;d get with a .jpg out of the camera?</p>
<p>Either way &#8211; I appreciate the perspective and the pointer to the setting. Thanks a bundle.</p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Rouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Thanks for your question. First of all, let me say that I understand your explanation of why you shoot in Raw+jpg, but I respectfully disagree. I recommend that photographers find a good starting place for their (raw) images in Lightroom using camera profiles or a default preset applied to images on import. I think having the jpg and raw copies of the same file is redundant and unnecessary (is it redundant to say &quot;redundant &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; unnecessary?&quot;) these days. But...I respect your choices as an individual.  :-)

Anyway...enough proselytizing...on to your question. Have you been able to import both the jpg and raw files into Lightroom? By default, Lightoom ignores jpg files next to raw files on your camera&#039;s memory card. You can change that behavior by checking the &quot;Treat JPEG files next to raw files as separate photos&quot; checkbox under the Import tab in &lt;a href=&quot;http://thelightroomlab.com/2009/05/setting-preferences-in-lightroom-2-updated-now-with-video/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lightroom&#039;s preferences&lt;/a&gt;.

When they&#039;re both in there, they should appear side by side in grid view, provided you&#039;re sorting by capture time and not filtering out raw or jpg files.

Best of luck,
Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Thanks for your question. First of all, let me say that I understand your explanation of why you shoot in Raw+jpg, but I respectfully disagree. I recommend that photographers find a good starting place for their (raw) images in Lightroom using camera profiles or a default preset applied to images on import. I think having the jpg and raw copies of the same file is redundant and unnecessary (is it redundant to say &#8220;redundant <em>and</em> unnecessary?&#8221;) these days. But&#8230;I respect your choices as an individual.  <img src='http://thelightroomlab.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;enough proselytizing&#8230;on to your question. Have you been able to import both the jpg and raw files into Lightroom? By default, Lightoom ignores jpg files next to raw files on your camera&#8217;s memory card. You can change that behavior by checking the &#8220;Treat JPEG files next to raw files as separate photos&#8221; checkbox under the Import tab in <a href="http://thelightroomlab.com/2009/05/setting-preferences-in-lightroom-2-updated-now-with-video/" rel="nofollow">Lightroom&#8217;s preferences</a>.</p>
<p>When they&#8217;re both in there, they should appear side by side in grid view, provided you&#8217;re sorting by capture time and not filtering out raw or jpg files.</p>
<p>Best of luck,<br />
Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Leonhardt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Leonhardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I often shoot RAW+JPG using my Olympus e500 - the thought being that if I&#039;m satisfied with the camera&#039;s jpg output for a given frame, I can skip the full post-processing routine for the matching RAW file. It&#039;s also nice to compare my post-processed RAW file against the default jpg algorithm used in camera. 

One problem with this strategy - I&#039;ve yet to discover how to see both files in the LR grid view displayed side-by-side. I&#039;d love to be able to use Compare view to look at my RAW file vs the camera&#039;s jpg. LR seems to recognize that I&#039;ve got RAW+jpg, but it only shows the RAW file in Grid view. I&#039;m guessing there&#039;s a simple way to show both files side-by-side, but I have not been able to figure it out. Ideas?

Thanks!

Tim Leonhardt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I often shoot RAW+JPG using my Olympus e500 &#8211; the thought being that if I&#8217;m satisfied with the camera&#8217;s jpg output for a given frame, I can skip the full post-processing routine for the matching RAW file. It&#8217;s also nice to compare my post-processed RAW file against the default jpg algorithm used in camera. </p>
<p>One problem with this strategy &#8211; I&#8217;ve yet to discover how to see both files in the LR grid view displayed side-by-side. I&#8217;d love to be able to use Compare view to look at my RAW file vs the camera&#8217;s jpg. LR seems to recognize that I&#8217;ve got RAW+jpg, but it only shows the RAW file in Grid view. I&#8217;m guessing there&#8217;s a simple way to show both files side-by-side, but I have not been able to figure it out. Ideas?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Tim Leonhardt</p>
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		<title>By: David Marx</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Marx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michel-

Good point.  I actually posted a tutorial and a video on this topic just last week.  Here&#039;s the link.

http://thelightroomlab.com/2009/10/camera-raw-profiles-in-adobe-photoshop-lightroom/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michel-</p>
<p>Good point.  I actually posted a tutorial and a video on this topic just last week.  Here&#8217;s the link.</p>
<p><a href="http://thelightroomlab.com/2009/10/camera-raw-profiles-in-adobe-photoshop-lightroom/" rel="nofollow">http://thelightroomlab.com/2009/10/camera-raw-profiles-in-adobe-photoshop-lightroom/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing to check out in regards to your RAW files not looking like your camera preview is the Camera Calibration menu. There you&#039;ll find all the default color profiles you find in your camera&#039;s menu. I set this up to apply to all photos on import. I always get better color rendering with my camera profiles.  -M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing to check out in regards to your RAW files not looking like your camera preview is the Camera Calibration menu. There you&#8217;ll find all the default color profiles you find in your camera&#8217;s menu. I set this up to apply to all photos on import. I always get better color rendering with my camera profiles.  -M</p>
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		<title>By: Camera Raw Profiles in Adobe Photoshop Lightroom &#124; TheLightroomLab.com &#124; Written by David Marx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camera Raw Profiles in Adobe Photoshop Lightroom &#124; TheLightroomLab.com &#124; Written by David Marx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the raw file enhancements like contrast and saturation have not yet been established. For more on the difference between a raw and a jpeg file click here.Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Camera Raw Profile [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the raw file enhancements like contrast and saturation have not yet been established. For more on the difference between a raw and a jpeg file click here.Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Camera Raw Profile [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rouse</title>
		<link>http://thelightroomlab.com/2009/06/digital-camera-file-formats-raw-and-jpeg/comment-page-1/#comment-6338</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Rouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skip and Tom,

This is by design. When you view images on the back of your camera, you&#039;re seeing a JPEG preview created by the camera&#039;s software. Camera manufacturers tend to apply a high-contrast, over-saturated since it gets the &quot;WOW&quot; from most viewers.

If you import a JPEG created by your camera into Lightroom, the develop settings that produced that image are respected and the image remains unchanged. When importing a raw file, however, (whether DNG, NEF, or other) Lightroom applies no processing to it. The understanding is that a photographer shooting in raw doesn&#039;t want an &quot;automatic&quot; processing method applied to their work but would rather fine tune the results themselves.

If you find that you&#039;re making the same changes over and over to your images, you can always either create a Develop preset with your changes and apply that on import using the Import Photos dialog box, or set a new baseline for the processing of photos from that specific camera.

To change the default Develop settings, go to the Develop Module. Move the sliders into the places you&#039;d like them to be. (Keep in mind that this will be your new &lt;strong&gt;default&lt;/strong&gt;, so don&#039;t customize it for a certain image.) Choose &quot;Set Default Settings&quot; from the &quot;Develop&quot; menu. Click &quot;Update to Current Settings&quot; to save the defaults for the camera on which that photo was taken.

Best of luck,
Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skip and Tom,</p>
<p>This is by design. When you view images on the back of your camera, you&#8217;re seeing a JPEG preview created by the camera&#8217;s software. Camera manufacturers tend to apply a high-contrast, over-saturated since it gets the &#8220;WOW&#8221; from most viewers.</p>
<p>If you import a JPEG created by your camera into Lightroom, the develop settings that produced that image are respected and the image remains unchanged. When importing a raw file, however, (whether DNG, NEF, or other) Lightroom applies no processing to it. The understanding is that a photographer shooting in raw doesn&#8217;t want an &#8220;automatic&#8221; processing method applied to their work but would rather fine tune the results themselves.</p>
<p>If you find that you&#8217;re making the same changes over and over to your images, you can always either create a Develop preset with your changes and apply that on import using the Import Photos dialog box, or set a new baseline for the processing of photos from that specific camera.</p>
<p>To change the default Develop settings, go to the Develop Module. Move the sliders into the places you&#8217;d like them to be. (Keep in mind that this will be your new <strong>default</strong>, so don&#8217;t customize it for a certain image.) Choose &#8220;Set Default Settings&#8221; from the &#8220;Develop&#8221; menu. Click &#8220;Update to Current Settings&#8221; to save the defaults for the camera on which that photo was taken.</p>
<p>Best of luck,<br />
Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://thelightroomlab.com/2009/06/digital-camera-file-formats-raw-and-jpeg/comment-page-1/#comment-6316</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I&#039;m having the same issue. I notice this with the Camera Raw plug-in for Elements, and in Lightroom. I shoot in vivid mode and every single picture transferred from NEF to DNG has lost all of the vivid colors. How can I stop this from happening?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m having the same issue. I notice this with the Camera Raw plug-in for Elements, and in Lightroom. I shoot in vivid mode and every single picture transferred from NEF to DNG has lost all of the vivid colors. How can I stop this from happening?</p>
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		<title>By: Skip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David, 

Thanks for the great article, very informative. 

I have an issue though. I shot pics with Nikon D300 Raw.NEF.Fine. When I download these pics into Lightroom 2.5 the brilliant colors on the camera.....changed to dull within lightroom. It actually happened as I watched, one after another, the pics on lightroom changed from brilliant to dull after the download was complete.  This does not happen when I shoot jpeg fine and download.   

Any Clues?

Confused
Skip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David, </p>
<p>Thanks for the great article, very informative. </p>
<p>I have an issue though. I shot pics with Nikon D300 Raw.NEF.Fine. When I download these pics into Lightroom 2.5 the brilliant colors on the camera&#8230;..changed to dull within lightroom. It actually happened as I watched, one after another, the pics on lightroom changed from brilliant to dull after the download was complete.  This does not happen when I shoot jpeg fine and download.   </p>
<p>Any Clues?</p>
<p>Confused<br />
Skip</p>
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